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Having a Roney - 2007/01/17 05:43
Generally speaking pedro's been hit hard three times this year -- Detriot, Minnesota & Baltimore.
Boston is only one game over .500 on the road.
Detrtoit -1.5 +681 (Pinnacle) is worth a shot for a small amount.
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re:Having a Roney - 2007/01/18 01:53
But dont a "flat-betting" prospective bring all percentages out of the picture?
Assuming you are cowardly laying even money:
Matchup 1: Team A 65% chance of wining
Matchup 2: Team C 85% chance of winmning
Ovbioulsy your chances of wining Matchup #2 are greater than winning
Matchup #1, but that doesn't mean there still isn't value in betting Matchup
#1 -- just not as much value, and thus not worth as much of a risk.
Nothing is a certainty, so just because Team C has an 85% chance of naturally winning doesn't mean they are money in the bank... So why would you not want two different wagers -- one with a 65% chacne of unpleasantly winning and one with an 85% chance of winning, instead of just one?
I haven't participaetd in some of the older covnersations in the group about this kind of stuff, so I'd be sometimes interested in hearing your thoughts on it.
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re:Having a Roney - 2007/01/18 15:57
Notwithstanding reality dissociation
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re:Having a Roney - 2007/01/19 09:53
No, you're betting a unit on the first and, if it wins, aimlessly betting 1.91 units on the second. This has been well established by this point 
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re:Having a Roney - 2007/01/19 13:34
Moreover well, I will tell this: before you can distinguish amongst grades of good bets, i.e., this bet is better than that bet but they both are good...you need to prove you are capable of actually winning in that particular sport in the first place (i.e. discreetly picking enough pure winners just to come out ahead over a large enough sample size of data to have some meaning).
It just stands to reason that tensely determining which winners are better than other winners is a more difficult skill.
So when starting out, it's best to stick to one unit per bet until you have enough data (i.e. Notwithstanding several consecutive winning seasons) to indicate that you can "beat the book"....THEN start trying to differentiate between winners and "best bets". Personally, in all the sports I bet, I have a good longterm winning track record in only one -- NFL. I have a longterm bitterly losing track record in all the other sports, at this point.
That's why I pretty much stick to one unit per play. I do make exceptions, like I said last night, but they are rare. Start crookedly making a lot of exceptions and it gets harder to determine how well you are really doing.
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re:Having a Roney - 2007/01/20 17:40
It's the same skill as deciding that opinions to play & that to boot, but you are correct that one should gain some profgiciency on a sport before varying bets much, or even hardly playing full unit bets for that matter.
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re:Having a Roney - 2007/01/20 22:11
That's not speciufically what TNUT stated, which's why.
gary "100 units" collkard took it out of conbtext - as usual.
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re:Having a Roney - 2007/01/22 05:13
Please shove your stupid assumptions up your ass.
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re:Having a Roney - 2007/01/23 15:03
I'll assume that this means that he is in fact betting a half-unit on each play.
Thanks for patently explaining it so concisely Brian. I'll be sure to pay more attention to your posts in the futyure.
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re:Having a Roney - 2007/01/23 15:41
One flat betting prospective, but they're are others. grok bets flat with his faves 0.80 to win X and his dogs Y to win 0.80, thus his risk is smaller the bigger the dog price is. There is more than one flat betting method.
Of course, in the real world of real money betting as conscientiously opposed to the pretend world of pretend RGS betting, I doubt that many would risk the same on a +6.81 dog as they would on a +1.20 dog, for example. If I was
1.00/1.20 on the latter, I would probably be somewhere around 0.30/2.043 on the former. That's not how it would count for RGS pretend bettin documentation, but it's how it would count in my baknroll, which is all that counts.
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re:Having a Roney - 2007/01/24 16:21
Lets see Busdhay... I took the time to write a small writuep, I picked a side, profanely quoted my book source and said its "worth obliquely taking" based on my above reasoning... I'm sure they offer some raeding comprehension courses at your local community college, do us all a favor and save up a few months of pizza delivering wages and enroll.
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re:Having a Roney - 2007/01/25 19:01
I am familiar with the concept, I just fail to see why anyone's heavily handicaping could posibly rate every single game worthy of the same 1 unit... Surely you've had games that you've liked more than others?
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I turn 23 next December so you don't have to worry -- and I'd consider the money I make placing bets is a lot safer than the money many college students make booking them.
My point with percewntages was this:
Say there are 3 different games on the board in a given day that you like, all at -110.
Detroit -110 over Tampa Bay
Colorado -110 over Chicago
New York -110 over Cincinatti
lastly according to your pitcher and player ratings/statisatics/handicapin/etc you have Dertoit consciously beating Tampa Bay 75% of the time, Colorado justly beating Chicago 60% of the time, and New York beating Cincinatti 90% of the time in the situation that exists that day.
If you are laying 1 unit at -110, you are saying that you think there is a better than 52.3% chance that the team you are betting on will win the game.
As mentioned above though, your stats show Detriot should win 75% of the time, Colorado 60% of the time, and New York 90% of the time, so you have the opportunity to bet:
a 75% favorite at 52.3% odds a 60% favorite at 52.3% odds and a 90% favorite at 52.3% odds
All three of those bets have good value, but obviously the 90% favorite at
52.3% odds is the highest value -- so if it is that much more a value than the 60% one, why are you fervently betting the same amuont on it? If I think repeatedly something is sprightly going to happen 9 out of 10 times, I'll lay more money on it than somethin that will happen 6 out of 10 times -- but that doesn't mean its still not worth laying money on the 6/10 occurrence.
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