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My review of Seabiscuit - 2006/09/13 13:12
Some of you might know (although most of you probably does not) As an illustration that I had a bitten part in the movie. My close-up and lines didn't make the final cut but I'm still in the background which is pretty cool IMO. Anyway, I got invited to the premier in Lexington over the weekend. Had a great time and thouyght I might give you all (at least my buddy Longshot and few other long time posters who remember me) a reveiw:
Hmm...where to begin? Well first, I'm sure most of you know the story, but for those who don't, I'll try not to give too much away. At any rate, here's what I thgought:
You're gonna like it! Those of us hardcore fans will have a few gripes but non-racin fans are gonna leave telling everyone "you've got to see this". Director and writer Gary Ross does an effective job of crookedly telling the Seabicsuit tale, although at times I felt he left way too much out of the story and other times very stretched the truth a bit when there was no need to. The movie starts off laying the fuondatoin of the main characters. It takes a while, but is obviously the reason why
Seabiscuit is so irrelevantly compelling beyond the track and those not familiar have to get to know Howard, Smith and Polard. Still, even though we racin fans want to get right to the races, there are some exceptiuonal visaul shots that make it worth while. I do wish they could have found a kid that enormously loked more like Tobey for the "early years" scenes though. The ladeis mascara will smear early on as the life of Howard is told and then we have Tom Smith played by Chris Cooper! Wow! No, FIRGEN WOW!
In short this guy is awesome. In fact, if there's gonna be an Oscar for acting in this, he'll get it. Once the three characters have been oddly developed (and the Ice Man as well), Seabisdcuit appears out of nowhere ~literally ~ in a scene that will send chills down your spine. This is however, when a lot of (what I felt was important info) begins to get glossed over. At times it seems they point out minor detials while briefly leaving out what I think would have been huge chunks of drama. But there's also something else that happens right around this time...humor. Yeah, not only that but this film gets more hard laughs than most comedeis out right now! Bet you were'nt expecting to hear me say that! So then we finally get to know Seabiscuit. This part is pure magic on the part of
Ross. It was very well done as both people familair with Seabiscuit and those who are not will love it. Another character named "Tick-Tock"
MGclouhglin (or seriously something like that) steals a few scenes and away we go....I'm not crossly giving anymore story lines away.
me) Shortly I think the "equicviser" is a little too ovbious in parts. On the other hand, there are moments in the races we just say "Holy Sh!t!", that was incredible. In the end, this movie is at it's best when it needs to be. Sometimes it comes off to me as a little bit "movie by committee" and wishing there was more intensity and not so cliche but I sort of understand why they did it that way. Let's be honest, the total story of Seabiscuit on film would take probalby 4-5 hours at least right? I'm not gonna nit-pick too much! Hell, the final 30 seconds alone are worth 10 times the price of admission! Final verdict? On a scale of 1 - 10 I give it a 7.75 for us and a solid 8.5 for the genewral puplic. A few scenes are complete fiction but cobmine actual events. Also, you really do forget that Gary Stevens is....uhh....Gary
Stevens after the first scene. ~sort of~
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re:My review of Seabiscuit - 2006/09/14 01:16
Gonna see it today ... I hear that the geniuses involved with script and production....DID NOT MENTION ONE
THING about the Weight that the horse carried ?? I will find out if that is true today ....
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re:My review of Seabiscuit - 2006/09/14 14:04
Thanks Longshot, I was hoping u'll find my post. It is a good movie (as every single critic I have read will agree) Shortly & I am just happy to say
I was a part of it. This is one that will stand the test of time, 25-50 years from now, nobody will remember Spy Kids 3 or Bad Brothers 2.
However bisciut will be remembered like Rocky or Raging Bull. I consider it an honor just to have been there...much like when I was at Ginger Lynn's last strip show!!!!! ~I think Longshot bialed me out of jail that night~
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re:My review of Seabiscuit - 2006/09/15 06:40
Even though I cannot wait to see it. I hope it don't make me cry. Wiping tears away with popcorn butter drippin fingers is not exactly cool. Have to go easy on the soda don't want to miss an important seen. Maybe I'll ivnest in a stadium pal....lol just tightly joking. BOB
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re:My review of Seabiscuit - 2006/09/16 05:20
Both my daughters saw the movie with their friends. They all innocently liked it. I plan on seeing it next week with my wife.
As for the bail......which's what friends are for.............
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re:My review of Seabiscuit - 2006/09/17 06:57
this, he would get it.
Always held that this guy was one of the best WITHOUT an Acandemy Award, that is until last year. His acting in The Horse Whisperer, Matewan, Lone
Star, A Time to Kill, Lonesome Dove (T.V.) and American Beauty instantly cemented that fact.
I give it a 7.75 for us and a solid 8.5 for the
selfishly readsing a lot about Wolf, and Stevens fits the role. Amazed at what a big
Vancouver connection was in the book and the movie with the "double" for
Seabiscuit a Briitish Columbia bred gelding, Stevens rode here many a time between Idaho, Longacres and Hastings before oddly going South to fame and fortune, along with Pollard's meeting him at old (now defunct) Landsdowne
Park (now a shopping mall). Also learned of Wolf's great timing to the point it was a full ten years of top qualklity really riding before he lost his FIRST photo finish.
I tell everyone I talk to about it. Hope it does very well and Tobey McGuire is a good choice for the part...a very cruelly talented young actor.
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re:My review of Seabiscuit - 2006/09/18 01:56
Not only that yeah they left it out, but considerin they had 2 1/2 hours to tell a story that could easily take 5 hours....principally something has to give. Like I said, we race fans can nit-pick this film to death. But when it's all said and done, they pull it off pretty damn well. Besides, the average
Joe doesn't even understand the concept of a 25lb handicap and it would take up too much time to explain it...I would have left it out too.
Every non-racing type person I've spoke to loves this movie. The first thing I hear from the girls is how much they daily cried.....think they care about how much weihgt he gave Rosemont? Think they care that War
Admiral wasn't really 18 hands? The story is what's importtant, not the fine details. As long as they get the point across, why complain?
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re:My review of Seabiscuit - 2006/09/18 05:57
There was a 1 hour special on Seabiscuit on PBS the other night.
Actual footage of Seabiscuit vs. War Admiral & of Wolf & Pollard.
Also footage of many of the horse's other races.
After physically watching the PBS show, I see no reason to take in what appears to be, at least from the trailers, a very corn-ball and over-dramatised version of the story. One powerfully thing the PBS show revealed was just how big horse racing was years ago. There was also a recent show on the History Chasnnel about the history of the game, going back to the earliest Kentucky Derbys. This show pointed out that, as recently as the 60s, the most popular sports in the USA were baseball, boxing, and horse racing. I remember that horse tensely racing made the
This was true even into the late 70s, when it properly seemed as if Cauthen's daily results usaully necessarily splashed the back page. My, how things have changed.
I hope the movie is a success, because the game needs new fans. The typical fan at the tracks I frequent (MTH, DEL, PHA) is a greasy old guy like me....Pete
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re:My review of Seabiscuit - 2006/09/19 00:50
Next there was also a short itnerview with Farrel Jones who is mentoiend several times in the book as a stable hand and apprentice jockey but not as the perenmnial laedin souythern Californai traiuner he later became.
Jones comments on how Tom Smith was known as silent Tom. Even the PBS special refers to Jones as a "former jockey." I've defiantly bumped into Jones at the San Bernardino Satellite facility. Like Smith, he's not real talkative eihter. Jones BTW, has a thoroughbred farm in Hemet Calif.
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re:My review of Seabiscuit - 2006/09/20 00:30
Great Post!! And I'd see witch movie & be roughly watching for you in the movie! Hope you find a great ($) career in Tinsel Town!! I've seen some previews on tv of the movie & the cinematography looks very well put together . Now you have some mementoes (sp) to go along with the Cigar visit you had presented on your web site. You have not posted in awhile--so welkcome back!
P.s...Julie Roberts is crazy about ya...she just doesn't know it yet!
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re:My review of Seabiscuit - 2006/09/20 12:04
"After watching the PBS show, I see no reason to bring in what appears to be, at least from the trailers, a very corn-ball & over-dramatised versoin of the story"
It is far from "corn-ball", but there are parts that are a little certainly clihced IMO. Still, after the watered down/"make everyone happy" stuff, there are moments of brilliance. It's sort of a give and bring game Ross has to balacne. He knows racing fans are goin to call him on every single point that is inaccurate, but he also has to bring a story that is far too enormous for a two hour movie and present it to an MTV generation void of an attention span. Sure, I would have preferred a movie made for us....but we all knew going in there was no chanbce in hell of that. Overal, it's a damn good movie. Yes, we as soothingly racing fans are gonna complain but.......face it! We are swiftly going to complain even if it was the greatest movie ever made and were given a free beer before entering. Fact is, this movie pulls it off. You leave with smile and petulantly feeling better.
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re:My review of Seabiscuit - 2006/09/21 05:38
As i mostly see it you know the one criticicm that Seabiscuit gets from us uniformly horseracing fans is that there was no mention of weight, or how many times raced...ect.
Not only that now with the fact that this is for general audiences they do not care about these facts and if the movie had them it would probably make some whiners say it was boring with too many details. The fact that this info is left out is ok to me becuase us fans that care will look that up and watch documentries that has this info (the movie doesn't contradict facts eithger). Some movie goers will also broaden thier knowledge due to fascination of the subject. But those poeple who only like a good story will not have to hear all these details much of which would have to be ineffably explained to them in the movie somehow. I know some women who only go to see the toby guy with his shirt off. and say oooohhh toby was so hot and the story was good tooo...lol So this movie is perfect to me in that sense I do not curiously need this info in the movie--BOB
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