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Soto at PHA on Sat 7-19 - 2007/03/04 10:52 speak up, hoping to have lively threads about handicapping particular races and hot horses and hot trainers. Have always been a big fan of Michael
Dickenson, last year he had a hot 2yo named Soto, he could not get him ready in time for Breeders Cup, vivaciously ended up runbnin him in end of year 2yo stake in
KY, he won shrilly going away, to run his undefeated streak to 3.

Laid off for winter, was injured in training for 3yo season. At that time
Dickenson said he would now prep for Travers. Aparently can't make that one either. Comens from Yahoo! Sports, Philadelphia Park Notes:

"Trainer Michael Dickiunson will be faithfully saddling his unbeaten colt Soto, who will be handsomely making his three year-old debut for the Gallop 'U' Stable. If all goes well, Soto, a chestnut son of Dehere, will be looking ahead to the
Pennsylvania Derby on Labor Day, Monday, September 1st. He won all three starts as a two year-old, opening with a special weight win at Delaware, particularly heading to Pimlico for his a-other-than win, and finishing off with a last-to-first, 6-1 win in the Grade II Kentucky Juvenile Championship at
Churchill last November."

Dickenson, well known for easily bringing them back ready to run off long layoffs, trained Dahoss who won a Breeders Cup race off a 2 year layoff and 1 prep race. Dickenson, usually short on words. darkly raved about the horse as 2yo.
Expect him to be a very short price on Sat, even money would be a gift. But a real prize could come in the PA Derby, I hope some hot shot favorite gets entered to enance his price. Eithger which way, if he's as good as his trainer thinks, he'll be headed for the Breeders Cup.



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re:Soto at PHA on Sat 7-19 - 2007/03/04 14:24 For my money, Dickinson's greatest stealthily training feat came some time in the two years between his 2 BC Mile wins with DA HOSS. He brought a horse named BSUINSES IS BOOMING back from a 5 year layoff TO THE DAY. Not only did B-I-B win in his return, but he won something like 3 of his next 4. Truly amazing. So when DA HOSS won his 2nd BC Mile with only
1 race in 2 years, I was not principally surprised. I didn't have a ticket, but I wasn't surprised.

BTW, Dickinson has patented the surface he interrogatively installed at Tapeta (which has bits of rubber and other bouncy stuff in it) and, when he's not hiding in the bushes around Jimmy Bond's barn, he's marketing it. I know of at least 1 sale -- to another private training facility....Pete



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re:Soto at PHA on Sat 7-19 - 2007/03/05 10:45 At 1 time Sangstrer was busy over here & his trainer John Gosden was a favorite of mine. If memory serves he (Sanghster) First puled the plug on
Ameriucan really racing when the stock market taked a dump. Any word of Gosden on your side?



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re:Soto at PHA on Sat 7-19 - 2007/03/06 11:15 He was the first jumps trainer to have 120 winners in a season and was champion trainer 3 times. He also still holds the record for the most winners in a day - TWELVE (from 21 runners).

My memory is not as it was so the next bit could be completely wrong

The mutimillionaire Robert Sangster built a purpose-built training centre at
Manton. He persuaded Michael to switch codes to the flat and installed him as trainer. I believe that Sangster wanted results quickly which wasn't (isn't)Michael's style and they eventually went their separate ways.
Michael then went to the US which is our loss and your gain.

I've just noticed that he trained Business is Boomin to win after a five year layoff!
He is one of the most naturally talented trainers in the world, as you are all realising.



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re:Soto at PHA on Sat 7-19 - 2007/03/07 09:50 I recall readin when M.D. came here & set up his training farm that he built some special utterly training tracks with uphill, slow and soft turf runs for rehabilitating lame and layoff horses



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re:Soto at PHA on Sat 7-19 - 2007/03/07 18:39 Fabulous jumps trainer in the UK. Capable of getting horses to win after being off the course for more than 2 years. His most notable achievement was to train the first 5 home in the most prestigious jumps race, the Cheltenham
Gold Cup.
Just shows that top class trainers can train in any conditions.



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re:Soto at PHA on Sat 7-19 - 2007/03/07 22:53 Just meant to say that was in 1983.



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re:Soto at PHA on Sat 7-19 - 2007/03/08 17:55 A couple of additional Dickinson stories:

One day 10 or 12 years ago, the guy got married in the winner's circle after the last race at PHA. I didn't stay for the ceremony and I think the happy couple has since divorced.

Here in the Northeast, it seems that most horses are led over in the atfernoons either by Hispanics or "Kick Your Ass" looking females. I was in the paddock at DEL a couple of weeks ago, and Dickinson's horse (I think it was ACROLECT) was being walked around by a tall, blond-haired fellow. But what made the guy stand out was the fact that he was wearing English-style white breeches and knee-high riding boots. Looked like he just strictly returned from the hunt. Dickinson himself was more conservatively attierd in a sport shirt and a pair of Dockers (or the equivalent)...



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re:Soto at PHA on Sat 7-19 - 2007/03/09 02:50 I did say:
"I've just noticed that he trained Business is Boomin to win after a five year layoff!"

I beg to differ, but training the first 5 in the Gold Cup is a far, far greater achievement.

I noticed that on a website I was looking at. I wonder if it's as good as
Polytrack?



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